Interview: Elijah Oberman of The Shondes
September 3rd, 2008 at 23:51 by The TarquinThe Shondes are a four-piece rock combo out of New York City who have been making waves recently with their first full-length album The Red Sea which is available from all the usual sources. I recently got the chance to correspond with violinist Elijah Oberman and ask him a few questions about the band, their music, and the tour upon which they have just embarked.
Fifty-Two Tuesdays: First of all, thank you for taking time to answer my questions. Your debut full-length, The Red Sea, has been met with a largely positive critical response. There are a lot of people saying not only that it’s a good album, but that it’s a unique one (e.g. calling it “genre-breaching”, “the only music that truly matters”, etc.) How do you feel about the reception the album has received and does it surprise you at all to see it be praised in the ways that it has been?
Elijah Oberman: Thanks for taking the time to interview! It feels really good to see fans and music critics get excited about the album and appreciate it. It’s so affirming to read quotes like those because it’s about something we poured our hearts into, and it’s also really humbling because we just put something out there and now people are making it their own and having their own experiences with it, owning it, so it starts to feel less “ours” if that makes any sense. Because it was our first record I think it’s been easy at times to focus on all the things I wish I/we did better, so I think it’s good to remember that at a certain point, you have to let go. I’m so glad that that people can be moved by what we’re doing and find it musically interesting, and I just hope I’m lucky enough to get to keep doing it for a long time.
FTT: One of the things that a lot of reviews hit on is the diverse set of influences that you draw on in your music. This seems to invariably lead to the reviewer either labeling it with a genre and adding qualifiers (e.g. Jewish indie punk) or eschewing genre labels all together and declaring it genre-defying. Do you think that either of these is an appropriate way to look at the music that the Shondes are making? Do you think that there are genre descriptors that are appropriate to apply to an album like The Red Sea?
EO: Ha! So true. I think at the end of the day I usually just call it Rock music because I think that has a lot of space in it. Which isn’t to say that the qualifiers aren’t helpful because they are, but it can also be counterproductive to focus on trying to find the perfect genre name rather than just listening to and getting something out of the music. I think from the beginning, the way that our various musical influences have showed up in our songs has felt pretty effortless, which is the “genre-defying” part I guess, because it’s not about attempting to create a “Jewish indie punk” sound, but just about working with and cultivating what comes naturally which is why you can hear a lot of different influences depending on what you’re tuned into.
FTT: The past few years have been time of significant change in the music industry. Indie record sales are up, the internet is opening up the market and making it easier for new bands to be heard, and ever larger numbers of albums and songs are being purchased online. How have these trends effected your development as a band and your entry into the music industry? What effect do you think these changes have on bands which, like The Shondes, may not easily fit into any of the more conventional genres?
EO: It certainly is a shifting landscape. In a lot of ways it’s just meant that it’s easier for us and other bands to put our stuff out there, which is great. It’s been my experience that people who love music are always excited about finding new bands that they love and that move them, and while they might have certain tendencies in the kinds of music they like, they’re not necessarily that fixated on genre. People like us who like lots of different music.
FTT: Many people have commented on the band’s political work with groups like Jews Against the Occupation. What is the role of these political activities in your songwriting process and would you consider politics a major motivation for your music?
EO: I think I’d just say that life is a major motivation for our music and that our politics are about how we live and how we experience the world, so that they’re woven into our songs in a lot of subtle ways, as well as the kinds of musicians we connect with and the kinds of shows we like to play. In addition to that, it feels important to try to use our art to support groups that are doing great work that we believe in, to try to get more people to know about the work they’re doing. It’s important to me to use whatever leverage we have to raise money for groups like JATO or the Sylvia Rivera Law Project who are making positive change happen in the world, and I hope that our music can be a part of people’s lives who care deeply about working for a just world- whether through inspiring, supporting, making you think of new ideas or just getting you through hard times or the day to day.
FTT: On the other side of the coin, how do you see your music fitting into politics and what role can music play in shaping a political issue?
EO: I think music can play a great role! There have been a lot of times where listening to music has changed how I felt about something politically, or just surprised me or shifted something or exposed me to a new way of thinking because I respond to it from a really personal and emotional place, and I’ve witnessed that same thing happen for some people at our shows.
FTT: Of more immediate interest: You have a heavy tour schedule lined up for the Fall with shows all over the country, are you looking forward to the tour? Are there any shows that you’re particular eager for?
EO: I really love touring and I’m so excited that this is our biggest one to date (about 2 and a half months). There’s just nothing like the feeling of getting to play almost every night and get so tight with each other musically. I’m especially excited for our show in Seattle, where we’ve had a great time in the past, and also for our show in New Orleans, which is a place I adore and we haven’t gotten to play for two years.
FTT: And finally: what comes next after the tour, is there another album in the works, or is it too early to say?
EO: We’re definitely already thinking about and planning the next album and we’re well on our way. We’ll be playing a lot of new songs on the tour, getting a feel for them, solidifying them and trying to figure out how to put together the next record. I think when we come back we’ll probably dive headfirst into some more intensive songwriting and start making decisions about recording.
FTT: Thanks again for your time, and the best of luck to you on your tour. I’ll see you at the Seattle show on the 19th!